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Technical Thinkers谢赛宁 × 张小珺 · Mar 16, 2026 · 6:44:00

Xie Saining's 7-Hour Marathon: World Models & Twice Rejecting Ilya

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Speaker谢赛宁 × 张小珺
Channel张小珺|商业访谈录
DateMar 16, 2026
Duration6:44:00
FormatVideo
Topics#llm · #reasoning · #china-ai · #vision

Why it matters

A 7-hour marathon interview with ex-OpenAI researcher Xie Saining: frontier world-model research, why he twice declined Ilya Sutskever's invitations, his choice to leave Silicon Valley, and his ties to Yann LeCun and Fei-Fei Li. One of the deepest tech-life interviews of 2026.

Key takeaways

  • World models: frontier research on AI understanding the physical world.
  • Twice declining Ilya: an independent researcher's life choices.
  • Leaving Silicon Valley: reflecting on AI centrism.
  • Academic ties to Yann LeCun and Fei-Fei Li.
  • The full intellectual map behind a 7-hour conversation.

Original video

Speaker
谢赛宁 × 张小珺
Channel
张小珺|商业访谈录
Venue
Zhang Xiaojun's Interview
Date · Duration
Mar 16, 2026 · 6:44:00

133. 对谢赛宁的7小时马拉松访谈:世界模型、逃出硅谷、AMI Labs、两次拒绝Ilya、杨立昆、李飞飞和42

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